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Are there conditions that would invalidate a DNR order?
Not nice topic but a DNR advice please I'm very ill only 31 but have been getting worse Dr agrees DNR would be OK but legally with a DNR are there conditions that would invalidate it say you had a DNR but attempted own life ect... I've got to have capacity assessment tomorrow but just curious ideally I'd like and advanced directive but I don't have funds for a lawyer to draw this up there is some intervention I would like but not a vent etc... any way of doing one low cost or free would it be up held if I just wrote it myself with a witness thanks currently in hospital so need to decide before I have some surgery weds but I can't end up in a worst position then I am now thanks x

Kenneth Roorda

2nd April 2022



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NQ - work for NHS. There is a TEP form which is a treatment escelation plan. It will state if you want to be resuscitated, hospital admission, on a vent, treatment etc. HOWEVER a TEP form is not a legal document and it can be over ridden if they deem the reason for needing to be resuscitated could be reversible etc x

Michael Perez

2nd April 2022


NQ. Can you appoint an Attorney under the Power of Attorney for Heath and Welfare. It costs about £80 and u can do it online. The person(s) appointed are legally obliged to make sure your wishes are carried out . It takes about 12 weeks though for it to be officially recognised though . I wish you all the best.

Adelle Schwartz

2nd April 2022

Depending on where you live you can get this covered with a "Respect" form. It includes a DNACPR but also has sections for what treatment you would still like to be given. It's used in the north Hampshire region however may go by another name in other areas Xx

Kyle Corcoran

2nd April 2022


NQ - Ex NHS. It is a big decision to make, but kudos for the GP for being open to it at your age. We had to respect advanced directives that were pre-written & signed by the doctor & patient same as DNACPR. The capacity decision will play a big part in this whole process, however it should be a chat that is made if you are feeling this way. An attempted suicide would likely invalidate a DNACPR document & I can’t imagine a health professional would allow to to go on as a reason unfortunately.

David Carroll

2nd April 2022

Registered nurse - the DNR or DNACPR as it’s know in Wales, is only void if the condition is reversible or health care error. So yes suicide as there is no knowing you had capacity as there is an impairment of mind that could be reversed, I.e severe depression. Health care error so let’s say a nurse gave you an injection that resulted in anaphylactic shock, they would revive you as the drug caused this. An example of condition if you were eating and began choking they would do everything they can to save you, as it’s reversible. The DNR/DNACPR is literally if you die naturally as possible (so an infection they couldn’t treat as body to weak/not responding to treatment, which results in body to shut down or a cardiac arrest etc) they will not attempt CPR. It does not mean you won’t be made comfortable as possible and if the medical team think they can treat it then they will. If your in hospital speak to the Drs or nurses and ask to speak to the palliative team regarding doing a advance directive. But again if your medical team think a condition is reversible they can override it unless you are conscious and able to say no I want to refuse this. They will likely do another capacity assessment as capacity is decision and time specific and as long as you have capacity nothing can be forced. They/hospital can take it to court as mentioned above but usually as long as you have a sound mind and a rational to why you refuse, judges favour patients wishes.

Jannie Weafer

2nd April 2022

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NQ Compassion in Dying have an online form to create a living will (advance decision). The process and assistance is free.

Violette Long

2nd April 2022

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Nq gp have you looked at the NHS website? https:// conditions/ end-of-life-care / advance-decision -to-refuse-trea tment/ This gives a lot of details about advanced directives. They do not need to be signed by a solicitor but a witness. Maybe one to ask your gp/consultant or someone like McMillan's if you're involved with them.

Marcia Middleton

2nd April 2022

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